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#161281 - 12/10/04 10:49 AM Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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While I have a moment I wanted to post the new take of "Don't Be Cruel" by Elvis Presley.

I did some additional adjustments on the Tyros' VH settings including the Master EQ settings in the Mixer Panel. I do think there is an improvement in the VH sound IMO. I really can't detect any distortion per se.

I'm going to continue to experiment with the VH settings to try and get the best sound possible. But I think at least for now I'm pretty satisfied with the VH sound I'm getting. Of course there's always room for improvement and I'm hoping also that the Tyros II will have an even better Vocal Harmonizer.

Your opinions and other critiques are always welcome.

Thanks for taking the time to listen if you do decide to download it.

Btw, I used the Same VH Type Select setting to make it a fair comparison.

Don't Be Cruel

Best regards,
Mike



[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 12-10-2004).]
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#161282 - 12/10/04 12:00 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Mike, good vocals & VH work! Your best 'vocal delivery' yet. I think you've really got the harmonizer settings nailed now. Please share what mic (plugged directly into the Tyros?) , and the detailed harmonizer-vocal efx settings you ended up using. Also, did you utilize a commercial midi file, or did you pre-record a midi sequence yourself on your Tyros? I enjoy listening to the musical progress you're making. - Scott
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#161283 - 12/10/04 12:34 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
Exound Offline
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Registered: 03/07/04
Posts: 80
Loc: Hoorn, Netherlands
I thought Elvis was dead?
Mike this sounds great.
I love the VH.

Jan

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#161284 - 12/10/04 02:07 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
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Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Very nice Mike,

I enjoyed it a lot.

Eric
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#161285 - 12/11/04 09:24 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
Mike...

I just gave a listen... great job! I'm also interested in the details of your recording technique. Thanks for sharing.

Glenn

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#161286 - 12/12/04 10:55 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Please share what mic (plugged directly into the Tyros?) , and the detailed harmonizer-vocal efx settings you ended up using. Scott


Quote:
Originally posted by GlennT:
Mike...

I just gave a listen... great job! I'm also interested in the details of your recording technique. Thanks for sharing.

Glenn



Thanks everybody for your replies and encouragement.

First off, this song was to demonstrate the Tryos' Vocal Harmony improvement I've gotten since tweaking the VH and other various settings such as EQ and volume adjustments.

For this purpose I used a standard Midi (for quick results) but the Vocal Harmony was triggered by Chords that I played along with the song.

The settings I used are as follows:

Volume Trim knob on back of Tyros set to 12 o'clock. Master Mic Volume knob on top of Tyros is adjusted for user preference. On this song it was set to around one o'clock to one thirty. I never noticed the 'red' light (overload signal) coming on btw.

The Mic Effect button was OFF for the re-take.

My Microphone is a Shure Beta87A that runs to a Rolls Phantom Power Adapter and then output to the Tyros' Mic Input. PS: I use a high end Mic Cable plus all my other Cables are of good quality, i.e. Monster, etc.


The Master EQ settings in the Mixer are those that Leo Dunne posted over at PSR Tutorial. I used the medium settings that he posted.

For the Mic and Vocal Harmony settings I used Leo's "EQ" settings save the EQ Low which I have at 80Hz with +0dB.

My 'Noise Threshold' is at -60dB and the 'Noise Gate' is ON. The Compressor SW is ON and the Threshold is set at -20dB and OUT = 100.

KBD = Lower BAL L=H Ratio = 3.0 MODE = Chord Mic VOL = 90.


>> I WILL keep experimenting mind you...

Best regards,
Mike
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#161287 - 12/14/04 06:31 AM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
RichUK Offline
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Registered: 06/17/00
Posts: 143
Loc: England
Nice one Mike, really enjoyed it! Sounds like you had a lot fun recording this one...

Cheers,
Rich

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#161288 - 12/14/04 06:48 AM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2208
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Yep, sounds really good overall and the harmony sounds realistic. Except toward end where they (heehee, like there are singers) sing...

I don't want no one to love...

Something going on there, it doesn't sound as realistic. Kind of wah-wah sounding. I don't know if that can be fixed or not but it definitely sounds manufactured there. Might just be those particular words working the harmonizer.
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#161289 - 12/14/04 07:57 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Quote:
Originally posted by SemiLiveMusic:
where they (heehee, like there are singers) sing...

I don't want no one to love...



That line is -

"I don't want no other love"
Elvis mumbles too.
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#161290 - 12/15/04 07:07 PM Re: Elvis' Song "Don't Be Cruel" re-take: :-O
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Ok, I won't be cruel - just kiddin', sounds good
zuki
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